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CBS to air segment on The "DARK" side of Homeschooling
I seen this advertised earlier in the weekend and got this e-mail from one of my homeschool groups this morning. Thought some of you may want to see it. It airs tonight.
Seems like maybe they should at least follow this story up with "The Dark Side Of Public Scooling" Oh, but wouldn't that be far to fair and balanced.
Here's the e-mail...
You may want to consider writing CBS after watching
> the story.
>
> From the WTM board:
>
http://welltrainedmind.com/k8gen35/messages/1223.html
>
> "This report is expected to focus on the handful of
> child abuse cases
> over the past 5 to 10 years involving "presumed
> homeschoolers" including
> the murder/suicide of "Non homeschooled
> homeschoolers" in Johnston
> County, NC two years ago. The CBS reporters will be
> highlighting various
> murders, suicides, etc. involving "homeschoolers"
> nationwide and
> will attempt to argue that "Homeschooling is out of
> control". The intent
> of the report is to encourage further state and
> federal government
> regulation of homeschooling.
>
> I checked out the site at CBS news to confirm this
> and it is true. "
>
> And here's the link to CBS's site
>
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/08/01/eveningnews/main152
>
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diffrent link
Here's a link that will take you straight to the segment listing.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/08/01/eveningnews/main15214.shtml
there not highlighting, so you'll have to copy and paste.
The show airs tonight on Eye on America, CBS Evening News.
Im going to Watch...
I will tune into this for sure...I just cant belive it!These stories these horror stories have NOTHING to do with the kids being homeschooled this has to do with child abuse plain and simple.I bet anything theres millions of stories of children being public schooled who are abused/neglected.When we talk of suicde let us just remeber the tragic Columbine High School murder suicides.I can speak for NC I have lived here all my life and the child protective services if MESSED UP here.I have seen crack addicts become foster parents.Im not kidding.I personally have been harrassed by child protective services here while down the street from me there was serious abuse going on and nothing was ever done.My second daughter had asthma shes outgrown and child protective services wanted to follow me to hospial for her treatment even though I proved she was being treated regularly and that I was not neglecting her.It ended with her pediatrican yelling obscenties at the social worker and telling her in the hospital if we werent left alone shed get a restraining order.Meanwhile you look around everywhere and see abusive parents go untouched.I know a person who left his 6yo child in a truck at a gas station for 6 hours alone to go do crack.His child was found sent to the uncles house and the father never came under scrutiny even though he was reported.The child remains with the father to this day and the fathers drug problem.I can think of tons more cases I have seen like this and tons of cases where good parents were harrased even to the point of giving thier children up for adoption due to the harrasment of social services who here in NC seem to be on a baby hunt beccause they snare would be adoptive parents into being foster parents by offering them easy fast adoption of babies if they do!If they are going to do a story on the abuse neglect in NC they need to not limit it to homeschoolers!
Script from the show, for those who didn't get to see it.
It's a 2 part segment, the 2nd part comes on tonight. Layralyn, I agree, it has nothing to do with homeschooling. Sounds like these were just bad parents, period! When Darlie Routier from Dallas murdered two of her three sons a few years ago the press never said anything about her kids being sent off to public school? Some people think she killed her kids for insurance money. How would that play into there schooling?
Ok, I have way more I wanna say, but I'm running late. I'll check back in later.
Jamie Lea
Script from show.....
>
>
> << Here is the script of the broadcast on the CBS
> Evening News tonight
> on
>
> Home Schooling. The story is on the Warren's in
> North Carolina....
>
> Vince Gonzales
>
> (HOMESCHOOL-ABUSE/GONZALES, Pierce, Walters)
> (EVENING NEWS for 10/13/03
> air)
>
> (NATS - SCHOOL BUS ON COUNTRY ROAD) bus
>
> The school bus never stopped at the secluded trailer
> on Hickory
> Crossroads here in rural North Carolina...because
> for five years Nissa
> and Kent Warren homeschooled their children. Then
> County workers got an
> anonymous tip: better check on those kids.
>
> (SOT/.TOM LOCK/JOHNSTON COUNTY D.A./T1/1 24 30) THIS
> IS ONE OF THOSE
> CASES THAT WILL ALWAYS HAUNT ME. (2433)
>
> For weeks, the parents tried to keep social workers
> OUT...until the day
> detectives and District Attorney Tom Lock were
> called IN.
>
> (SOT DA TOM LOCK /T1/approx 1 03 31) I WAS STUNNED
> AT THE SQUALOR THAT I
> SAW. // THERE WAS ROTTING FOOD // ANIMAL FECES ON
> THE FLOOR // (VG) IS
> THIS A LOCATION WHERE YOU COULD EXPECT SOMEBODY
> COULD BE LEARNING
> LESSONS AND GOING TO SCHOOL?// (LOCK) I CAN'T
> IMAGINE ANYONE LIVING IN A
> RESIDENCE LIKE THIS.
>
> A faded sign on the wall reads: "SO THIS ISN'T HOME
> SWEET HOME: ADJUST."
> (GFX) In the bedroom, fourteen-year-old Brandon had
> committed suicide
> with a rifle...after killing his brother Kyle and
> sister Marnie. (END
> GFX) Their mother discovered the bodies.
>
> (SOT/neighbor/f-1/151115) SHE STOPPED ME IN THE
> ROAD. SHE SAID MY
> CHILDREN ARE DEAD.
>
> Nissa Warren told a detective she'd "rather God had
> them than Child
> Protective Services."
>
> (GFX) It turned out the Warrens had homeschooled
> before-- in Arizona--
> where they were convicted of child abuse. An
> investigator there wrote:
> "The children are tortured physically and
> emotionally." (END GFX) That's
> information North Carolina school officials are not
> required to collect.
>
> (OC OUTSIDE NC STATEHOUSE ) SINCE IT BECAME LEGAL IN
> NORTH CAROLINA IN
> 1985 THE NUMBER OF HOME SCHOOL STUDENTS HAS JUMPED,
> FROM JUST A FEW
> HUNDRED TO MORE THAN 50-THOUSAND BUT THERE'S BEEN NO
> CHANGE IN THE
> NUMBER OF STATE EMPLOYEES OVERSEEING THE
> PROGRAM-JUST THREE FOR THE
> ENTIRE STATE.
>
> (SOT/MARCIA HERMAN-GIDDENS/NC CHILD ADVOCACY
> INSTITUTE/T4/44115) I THINK
> THERES SO LITTLE SUPERVISION THAT THEY REALLY ARE
> NOT PROTECTING THOSE
> KIDS. (4123)
>
> Marcia Herman-Giddens is on the state task force
> that reviewed the
> Warren case. (GFX) The conclusion: home school laws
> "allow persons who
> maltreat children to maintain social isolation in
> order for the abuse
> and neglect to remain undetected." (END GFX)
>
> (SOT/MARCIA HERMAN-GIDDENS/NC CHILD ADVOCACY
> INSTITUTE/T4/42020) THEY
> DELIBERATELY KEEP THEM OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE BECAUSE
> THE CHILDREN DO
> HAVE INJURIES THAT ARE VISIBLE AND THEY DON'T WANT
> THEM TO BE SEEN.
> (2030)
>
> (SOT/HAL YOUNG/NORTH CAROLINIANS FOR HOME
> EDUCATION/T3/3 15 31) I DON'T
> SEE A CONNECTION BASED ON ONE VERY TRAGIC
> UNFORTUNATE CASE. (1536)
>
> Hal Young, an advocate for homeschool parents says
> most are loving and
> doing a very good job.
>
> (SOT/HAL YOUNG/NORTH CAROLINIANS FOR HOME
> EDUCATION/T3/3 1536) I DON'T
> SEE A CONNECTION THAT WOULD SAY THIS IS WHERE THE
> GOVT NEEDS TO STEP IN.
> THIS IS WHERE THE GOVT NEEDS TO COME TO YOUR HOME,
> COME INTO YOUR
> LIFE...
>
> (NATS/f-1/152132 NISSA WARREN OUT OF COURTHOUSE
> DOOR) NISSA SWATS AT
> REPORTER
>
> The Warrens were acquitted of child abuse charges
> but spent 45 days in
> jail for failing to secure a firearm. Through their
> attorney declined
> they requests for an interview.
>
> (SOT/JONATHAN BREEDEN/ ATTORNEY FOR NISSA AND KENT
> WARREN T2/2 19 51)
> ALL THEY EVER ASKED WAS THAT THEY BE ABLE TO RAISE
> THEIR CHILDREN IN THE
> MANNER IN WHICH THEY FELT WAS APPROPRIATE.
>
> Tomorrow, how children nationwide have been put in
> danger, even killed,
> while homeschooling. In Smithfield, North Carolina,
> this is Vince
> Gonzales for Eye on America
I Am Floored by This
I really thought these ridiculous sorts of attacks were over, at least as far as the media are concerned. I don't know about y'all, but I'm writing about this. I hope they get inundated with letters of complaint!
Found this Column on the CBS Segment
This was on the World Net Daily website:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35104
Another Pro-Homeschooling Site Relating to This Issue
Another site about this topic that is humorous. Warning: this site is a parody, some people may not find humor about this topic amusing. I thought the site was entertaining.
http://www.design-a-website.com/dark.htm
Clancy
Too Funny!
I got a good laugh out of that!
chuckle
Me too! Thanks for the laugh, Clancy
Thanks Clancy ;-)
I loved it Clancy, thanks for sharing.
Here's another you guys may be interested in seeing.
http://www.geocities.com/publicschoolnightmares/
Humm? I'm not sure what I'm d
Humm? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, I used to be able to make those things link??
Hopefully you guys can copy and paste.
Thanks Jamielea
That site was great, well, you know what I mean! Thanks for sharing it. The statistics can be frightening, but it was great to see the "other side" of the statistics.
As far as the links, try adding this to the beginning of your URL:
< aspacehref > but take out the spaces and where it says "space" insert an actual space; and this to the end of the link: < / a > again, without the spaces.
Clancy
did anyone end up watching this?
I did not get a chance to see this program. Ok, that's because I totally never watch TV and don't even know which channel is CBS on my system and was too lazy to look up the channel and time. But I'm wondering if anyone did see it and if it was as bad as it sounded. I personally think that if a situation is this bad, that's an issue for CPS, nothing to do with education.
Lauralyn
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