What Is the Meatrix?

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Submitted by Lynn on Wed, 11/05/2003 - 1:05pm.

Take the red pill! An amusing and factual animation about the "lies we tell ourselves about where our meat comes from." Great links to family farms in your area at the end--just type in your zip code. (The site requires Flash.) Thanks to Stephen B. on the native-nutrition email list for the link.

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I'm a family farmer!

Submitted by jennye on Wed, 11/05/2003 - 6:32pm.

Yep, the farmer must get in on this one. LOL!!

Ok, I finally got thru the movie (DON'T watch if you have a 5 year old computer like mine. Takes too darn long!). Now, my thoughts.

I punched in my zip code and only one place turned up in my area, and they don't have beef. Just chicken and turkey. Most of New Mexico is agriculture. I know many, many people that own family farms. Their names didn't turn up. I'll get to a point in a minute. Laughing out loud

You know I used to have this on the old site, but now that we are here, I'll put it all down again. Ya'll that have read it or just don't want to hear it, just ignore this. Smiling

I have a family farm. We raise angus beef cattle, as well as hay. First the beef. We don't give our cows antibiotics, we feed them on pasture (we feed 51 head on almost 1,200 acres, so they have plenty of room), hay, and range cubes (a mixture of wheat, corn, cottonseed, molasses, veg. oils, dried skim milk, and vitamins and minerals). We give them one boost of hormones (in the ear), we brand them (you have to in New Mexico, or else you can't sell them), we dehorn them (safer that way), we worm them, we castrate the steers (we used to cut them and get yummy Rocky Mountain Oysters, but now we use a bander that gives a quicker recovery rate and has something better to do with hormones. It's a band that is tighted around their balls and after a couple weeks, they will just fall off. Very humane). The calves are raised on the before mentioned feed and their mama's milk (til of course we wean them). When they are yearlings, we take them to the cattle sale in Clovis, where they are bought by feedlots, who then finish them out and send them to the slaughter house. I don't exactly what they are finished with, but I know it involves hay, because we sell our hay that isn't up to the dairy's standards to them.

Hay: We grow our hay using some chemicals, such as pestacide to kill army worms and aphids. We use some fertilizers to help the yields. Why do we not do anything organic? Yields. When you live in a drought stricken area that is running out of irrigation water, you do what you can. We sell our hay to dairies (when it's good enough for them). The dairies mix it with insilage (mixtures of alfalfa, haygrazer hay, wheat, corn). I don't know what else they feed them, but every dairy in our area (60 of them, about 5,000 cows each, and ALL are family owned!) has a nutritionist on staff to monitor exactly what they are getting.

Milk and more dairy talk: Now, speaking from the milk plants point of view (my DH has to drive a milk truck this winter because farming and ranching didn't pay enough to cover the bills). The milk is picked up from the FAMILY OWNED dairies and taken to a large plant here in our town. I not sure what all is done there, but every load is tested for several things, and if anything unwanted by the plant(antibotics for one) are found, that load is REJECTED (and sometimes we let them dump it on our unused land). Water is taken out of the milk (and dumped on some farm land the plant owns), and shipped to a packaging plant.

Oh, I promised you a point earlier. ALOT of your meat is coming from family farms LIKE MINE! Just because we aren't on some web site doesn't mean that you aren't getting meat from us! The little man can't do it all himself, he sells it higher up. maybe they are the ones with the factory farm label, I don't know. Think of it as an assembly line. My family does it's part, the auction does theirs, the feedlot does theirs, etc. I know of NOT ONE factory farm anywhere near me. Not to say they don't exist. I'm just saying that all your supermarket meat isn't from a factory farm. I'm not a big rancher, yet. Someday I want a couple hundred head, but that involves alot of land. But you put all the little ranchers together, you have alot of cows.

And for what it's worth, produce in some big name supermarkets (you know, the forbidden W-word), get local produce as well. Ok, some is more local to me, Mexico isn't that far away. LOL! But I know the pumpkins and peanuts and a few others are from here. I know lettuce and potatoes are shipped in from family farms a little farther (Hatch, New Mexico and Alamosa, Colorado). Oh, and some potatoes are from here as well.

Ok, way too long, and if you are still with me, I hope you haven't gone to sleep from boredom. LOL!!

I'm getting back to the CMA awards. I hope the Dixie Chicks don't get squat and Toby Keith wins them all. We are singing "I Love This Bar" right now. LOL! You should hear dd6 sing it! Too cute!

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you could make more money...

Submitted by Lynn on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 2:26pm.

...if you finished a few of your beeves yourself on grass and made them available by the half or quarter at the nearest big city--or if you got ambitious, even over the internet like Peaceful Pastures. Grass-fed beef is THE thing right now among foodies and health-conscious carnivores, it goes for big, big bucks, and the trend is only going to get bigger, not smaller. If I lived near you I'd buy a half a beef from you like that *snap* if I knew it was even mostly grass-fed and not grain-finished, and I could sell another three halves just in my immediate circle of family and friends, not even counting my nutrition group. Unfortunately, you're down there and I'm up here. Smiling

I really prefer to buy my meat/eggs/dairy direct from farmers because then I KNOW what I'm getting--I can go and see it to be sure--and I know the farmers make a lot more money from my direct purchase. And even so, I usually save over what the same product (guaranteed pasture-fed animal products) would cost in a store. That's not to say I don't buy in the stores, because I do; often I don't have much choice. But if you can buy direct from a farmer, people, do, whether it's animal products or produce.

I should think, Jenny, with the rising cost and popularity of beef right now, that you'd be doing well!

Lynn Siprelle, Editor
and converted carnivore

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Grass-fed vs. grain-fed

Submitted by jennye on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 8:48pm.

Grass-fed beef isn't as good as grain fed. Grain gives the beef extra fat and marbling, adding too the flavor and texture of the cut.

You think you would only eat half a beef a year? We ate a whole beef, pig, and deer over the past year! And I've been buying ground beef for about the past 4 months. We have really got to put one in our pens and finish it out so we have some good beef soon.

I wish we were doing well. Smiling One of the biggest things killing the family farm isn't the factory farm, but the rising cost of machinery and such, but low prices on crops. In fact, many crops are bringing what they did in the 40's and 50's. Our cows just make the land payment on the ranch and house. It doesn't provide for any living or the farm and farm land at all. Try out these prices:
*New tractor (pulls plows, baler, rakes)= $130,000 (yes REALLY! We bought our newest one last year, it's a 94 model, for $35,000)
*New baler (bales hay)= $75,000 (again, we bought a used one 4 years ago for $50,000)
*Swather (cuts hay)= $70,000 (we found a used one a couple years ago for $15,000 and had to put about $7,000 in parts to get it working)
*Combine (harvests wheat)=$150,000 (we don't combine wheat, we bale ours into hay, so at least this is something we don't have to have)
*hay rakes= $7,000 (our only piece of machinery that we ever bought brand new!)

A majority of our machinery is very used. Some of our plows are older than DH!

This year so far, we have spent $14,000 in parts alone to keep the machinery together, $7,500 in diesel and natural gas for our irrigation motors, $7,000 in seed, $10,600 in fertilizer and pestacides. Another $12,000 in diesel for the trucks and tractors. And we are small farmers! At least land is cheap. About $200/acre or so for pasture, a little more for non-irrigated farmland.

Wait, this was supposed to be about beef, right? LOL!! Sorry, I got off onto a farming tangent rather than ranching. Maybe when some of the machinery is paid for and we get out of this drought, we will actually make some money (in case you are interested, our annual rainfall is supposed to be about 15 inches. We haven't gotten more than 10 inches a year for the past 10 years). One reason why I want to get my teaching degree and get back to work when Chance is in school, take ALOT of pressure off the farm to support the household. The farm can support the farm, I can support the house, and anything extra would just be nice.

Oh, one more thing. We have almost 1,200 acres and 50 cows is all it can support because the grass is so scarce. Now, places like Georgia and East Texas and the Pacific Northwest can put many more cows per acre, rather than acres per cow.

Studmuffin, of course I remember you well! We nearly moved to Alamosa a few years ago, but couldn't afford the land up there. Besides, gets a bit too cold in Colorado for me! LOL!!

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Flavor's not the issue

Submitted by Lynn on Fri, 11/07/2003 - 9:42am.

"Grass-fed beef isn't as good as grain fed. Grain gives the beef extra fat and marbling, adding too the flavor and texture of the cut."

That may be so, but flavor's not the issue at this house. It's health, and grass-fed animal products are MUCH healthier for you than grain-fed. Let me see if I can find a reference...OK, here ya go: Why Grassfed Animal Products Are Better For You.

Jenny, I would never ever tell you how to farm! I don't know the first thing about it. But I do know that many family farmers are turning to this new market and prospering again, and if you weren't aware of it, I wanted you to know. We're hoping to keep a couple of chickens ourselves in the next year and I'm always on the lookout for raw dairy and grassfed meat. It's not easy to find, at least at a price we can afford!

And I know we could eat way more than a half in a year! I just don't think I have more storage space than that at a time. Smiling

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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Healthy vs. Taste

Submitted by jennye on Fri, 11/07/2003 - 5:40pm.

I won't argue that it may be healthier. Smiling But what's the point if it doesn't taste as good? LOL! I'll take my chances and die with a smile on my face (in the words of my grandfather at him having restrict the salt in his diet. He died at age 91).

I know you wouldn't tell me how to farm. Smiling And I'm not telling you how to eat. I know you need to watch what you eat. I feel very blessed that I don't have to be careful at this point in my life (and, God willing, ever). I'm glad you are making the choices that are right for your health.

Happy chewing that tough grass-fed meat! Laughing out loud

PS, you know I luv ya! Gotta rib you a little! (whoops, pardon the pun!!)

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it's not THAT bad! :)

Submitted by Lynn on Sat, 11/08/2003 - 9:26am.

I don't think we've ever had tastier meals, actually, than we do now; grass-fed beef can be nearly as tender as grain-fed, I've found, at least the beef I've had, and a good cook can deal with the rest. Smiling I don't need my meat to be fork-tender, just tasty and good for me, and the meat I'm getting, when I can get it, qualifies. (I'm tellin' ya, whether you want to eat it or not, there is a market out there.)

Your grandpa probably died at such a ripe old age because the foundation of his health was set in his youth by eating a lot of good, local, probably mostly grass-fed animal products like butter, cream, eggs and meat, and few if any transfats (since they weren't in very widespread use). He probably also didn't eat as much sugar as we do now in his youth.

Personally I don't believe in the low-salt theory, especially since it has made zero difference in my own blood pressure. It's less a salt problem and more a processed foods problem (very high non-salt sodium problems), and definitely a WATER problem--and a magnesium problem. The magnesium content of our food, especially veggies, is much lower than it's ever been because of soil depletion without renewal. I take extra magnesium and also epsom salts baths; it helps my blood pressure and regulates my heart palpitations.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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jenny ~~~~wave from cow land in n. colorado

Submitted by studmuffin on Thu, 11/06/2003 - 8:43am.

Hey Jenny long time no talk. I enjoyed, as always, hearing about your life ranching. I envy your lifestyle and farm living. If you remember I wanted land and horses for the trade off of leaving Hawaii and going back to Colorado, but it didn’t work out for us. Acres up here in northern Colorado are tooo darn expensive, it’s like California even more expensive here then Hawaii for houses and land. If we were down by Alamosa that would be a possibility then, but we are here to help mil with cancer -btw she is cancer free for 4 months or so. Since we live around and are making friends with many little farmers, I hear what you are saying, little and big mixing and working together.... . AND I live very close to a huge meat plant that makes that stink meatrix was talking about, *wrinkle nose*....(luckily I’m the next city over, so I don‘t get the smell so much) but the big plant employees many folks in that city who otherwise wouldn’t have a job.... if that plant was to close the city would fall into a depression.... just another thing to consider. Not everyone can or wants to farm but everyone needs jobs of some kind and the huge plants provide that opportunity.... and so do the huge store chains.

Another thought I have friends still in hawaii that had just moved there to start an organic coffee farm, but struggle because organic can be less cost effective.....produce less harder to compete with teh bigger guys... and I don’t usually buy organic for the cost reason as well, organic is often way more expensive and I can’t afford it.

I did watch the meatrix movie it was funny and a little informative. I did find a farm in neighboring city that has it all, chicken, eggs, beef, turkey and so on all organic. I will be curious how much it costs.

I chose what I buy, not based on where it was made, or how, or even if it is organic. I buy for personal reason like...I support the little guy in my town, the old style meat store... I swear I found Mayberry 15 blocks long with mom and pop main street, and I love it. I will not ask where he gets his meat. It doesn’t matter, I will shop and support his little mom and pops store regardless. His wife is my daughters first grade teacher btw so they have my support. AND I support the big grocery store in town too because they employ my husband. Plus, Besides I can’t usually afford organic. *grin*

my two cents Charlene

when handed a basket of lemons make lemonade

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