On Division of Labor

Submitted by Lynn on Tue, 01/10/2006 - 5:08pm.

This started as a comment on Becca's blog, but I found myself thinking and writing enough that I thought I'd better take it here. Go read her post (and click through to the Salon article if you want) and come back. Ready? OK. [Edited to add that Becca seems to have taken that post down. Here's the Salon story.]

I'm in the beauty spot since I work AND stay home. I'm unassailable. But I'm also an advocate for stay-at-homes; that's what my work is. I don't want to take part in the mommy wars--I refuse to--and yet I recognize that some biologically or emotionally connected adult being home, making home, leads to happier family lives. I believe that firmly.

I also recognize the reality of Western family life--let's face it, the reality of Western motherhood. And that is, it's still on us. The house, the kids--it's still on us. We're still here, on duty 24/7, whether we work outside the home or not. My husband does more with the kids and the housework than my father did, and is generally great--but when the kids are sick at night, I'm the one who gets up. He has to go to work in the morning, but I'm pretty sure that if we both had to go to work in the morning I'd still be the one getting up.

We all hear about the marriages where everything's 50/50 all the way around. How many are there? For the rest of us, it's the double shift--work, and then come home and work some more. Why would you do that if there were any possible way around it? Division of labor is that way around, and if it's a betrayal of feminism I fail to see how living the double shift life so many women live is a fulfillment of it. One of my friends says, why should we accept anything less than 50/50? My answer: We're married to men NOW, not 50 years into a hypothetically more equal future. We have to meet our partners where they are. We can ask for more, but expecting change unless someone wants to change is a recipe for making yourself crazy. And divorced.

If it sounds like I'm saying most women have to make a choice between career and home, I guess I am. Men by and large don't have to make that choice, but you know what? Men also can stand up and pee a whole lot easier. Some things are just the way they are. If you're a career woman and have a family member of some kind who can handle the home front--your partner, your mother, your sister, someone who has an emotional stake in you and your children rather than a financial one--go for the full plate. But a family member has to be home if at all possible when there are children involved.

I have more thoughts on this, but that's all for today. I will say this, though: Total 180 sounds like a Total Whatever.

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Oh, Salon

Submitted by Shaun on Tue, 01/10/2006 - 6:58pm.

I can't add to what Lynn said regarding the actual issue -- she is spot on, as usual. I just have to say that reading Salon -- and Rebecca Traister, the author and interviewer of the article -- often makes me despair for the future of the family. And I'm a crazy feminist liberal. I made the mistake of reading the letters responding to the article -- ugh.

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50/50

Submitted by jennye on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 7:50am.

That must be what my husband was thinking the other night. He got a wild hair up his butt to clean out the science fair projects out of the fridge. So he took them out and put it all on the counter. His half must have been done. My half was to dump all the containers and wash.

His half: eat apples and bananas
my half: pick up apple cores and banana peels left on the table and put in trash.

LOL! Sorry, couldn't resist venting my past two days into your blog!

In his defense, he does earn all the money for me to run around and wrecklessly spend on things like groceries and the electric bill and such. But he does get to spend more time with the kids at times than most working fathers. In fact, he does take the three year old with him quite a bit lately (mostly because DH is a big wus and can't tell DS3 NO). But it's nice that he can do that with him together.

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I've created a monster

Submitted by Marlene on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 9:42am.

DH is going crazy organizing and cleaning out drawers all of a sudden. I think he is pregnant and this is his "nesting" stage LOL! Actually, I think after 20 years I have rubbed off on him, and since he is the stay at home now, he realizes to stop throwing his junk around and clean it up!

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Total 180

Submitted by Jilsyt on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 3:13pm.

Hmmmm. I think that what Total 180 is trying to do (make it so you don't feel like you have to "explain" why you're staying home to every joe shmoe)is a worthwhile cause. I do think that sometimes we forget why we are home: we love our families and feel it is going to better their future. As for equality in labor...why? Many men I've spoken to who are in their 80's now, whose wives stayed home, feel their wives got the better payoff. Now years later, when the kids call, most guys hear, "Hi, Dad. Is Mom home?" And in the end that's the payoff that is worth the most. The money will be spent, dishes will be dirty again, but the kids will always love those who cared for them.

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Oh sure

Submitted by Lynn on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 4:08pm.

It's what TNH has been trying to do since 1999--almost exactly the same thing. It's just that the features I've heard of so far kinda make me cringe--and are they really useful? No, I don't think so. TNH tries to be useful rather than hip.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

Jilsyt's picture

Gulp.

Submitted by Jilsyt on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 9:43pm.

I wasn't trying to say that TNH wasn't doing a good job, if I didn't love it, I wouldn't bother coming. I'm just saying that if people don't find you, it's nice to have SOMETHING to turn to. Plus, I've been at home for 2 years now -with internet connection-and just found TNH, even though I read lots of home/family stuff. I was glad when I found it, but wish it was easier to find. I was the first of my SAHM friends to even come across TNH, but they appreciated the referral. So, sorry if my last comment seemed like a bash, no intention of that, just saying we should give those who have the same goal some credit.

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Oh, I didn't take offense!

Submitted by Lynn on Fri, 01/13/2006 - 8:35am.

I totally didn't. I'm trying to get TNH better-noticed. I think it's working because we've gotten 200 new members in less than 30 days.

And Total 180, good luck to them. I just don't know if all that frivolity and spouse-bashing is going to be good or bad for homemakers.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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Spouse bashing makes my stomach hurt

Submitted by Anhata on Fri, 01/13/2006 - 2:56pm.

My DH is an amazing person and works so hard around the house and on his job, and he's so good to me and to DD that I actually sometimes feel guilty for getting upset with him when he's (legitimatly) exasperating or just flat out wrong. I respect him so much and honor all the hard work he does and his devotion to our family and home that it actually hurts me to hear other women bashing their spouses. If it's a legitimate complaint, venting is fine (nodding to jennye) but spouse bashing is damaging to relationships and to the family.

If there's a problem, deal with it in a way that respects the humanity of everyone. Dissing husbands in a magazine...who or what does that help?

Why are the 180 ladies pissed, by the way? I've looked around the website and read how the founders were frustrated with their husbands and "pissed" in general...say, huh? I don't get it. From the very little they let you read of the articles, the mom writers sound angry, resentful, even militant. There's something else going on there.

Is this some backlash against having had a professional career and then when they decide they want to put that on hold to raise a family they resent the changes or adjustments that everyone has to make (or don't make)? Because they were unprepared for what is was to be an at home mother? Again, I don't get it.

Anhata
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