I need to vent!

Submitted by silverbear on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 5:45am.

I am angry and frustrated and unsure of what to do next. I don't like being in this mental space.

My dog and I have a regular walking route - north on our relatively unbusy country road to the highway, and back. It's precisely 2 miles. There are no sidewalks, but we walk facing the traffic, and move onto the gravel shoulder as traffic approaches. We burn off some energy, I collect my thoughts, and I wave to all my neighbours along the way.

Yesterday, our peaceful walk was disrupted twice by rowdy teenagers on a joyride. Both times, they were travelling in the same direction that I was walking, so they came up behind me in the opposite lane. The first time, some obscenities were shouted. Later, the passengers blared an airhorn as they passed. It was obnoxious, testosterone driven herd mentality, but not illegal.

Now, I've been an Army wife for 12 years. I understand testosterone-driven obnoxious behaviour. Part of my husband's job as a senior Non-Commissioned Officer is to rein in that behaviour when it is exhibited by 18 year old Privates. Normally, I can let that sort of thing roll off my back.

In this case, I cannot. I recognized the car containing the obnoxious little jerks. It has a custom license plate consisting of a boy's name and a date. It commemorates that family's tragedy. A few years ago, their 12 year old son was killed in an ATV accident. I don't know the family personally, but I have been haunted by that incident. I was on another walk with my dog one summer evening when I saw a kid driving an ATV on a public road, which is illegal in New York State. I had contemplated calling the sheriff about it, but by the time I got back home 1/2 hour later, it would have been a moot point. I also figured that if that child's parents had given him permission to ride around on the 4 wheeler, it wasn't any of my business.

The very next day, the kid was killed when he rode his ATV out onto a very busy highway and directly into the path of an oncoming pickup truck. Was it the same kid? I don't know. Would it have made any difference if I had called the sheriff? Again, I don't know, and that's what haunts me. I didn't want to interfere. A child is dead. I am unable to erase that connection in my mind.

Now, even though the kid was at fault, the family sued the driver of the pickup truck, who was only 20 at the time. Most of the lawsuit was dismissed, but they did win a small settlement on behalf of the older brother, for the mental and emotional trauma of witnessing his brother's death.

Now, it appears that the older brother is old enough to drive. He's moved from one internal combustion engine toy to a bigger one, and it doesn't appear that he's learned any lessons from his brother's death. Moreover, it doesn't appear that the parents have, either.

Part of me wants to leave a note in the family's mailbox, informing them of what I witnessed yesterday. My Mom-sense is tingling, and I fear that they are headed for another tragedy. But my fear of confrontation is overriding my desire to say something. So, in the end, I'll probably do nothing.

Technorati Tags:
( categories: )

Marythebaker's picture

Oh Silverbear,What an awful

Submitted by Marythebaker on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 8:18am.

Oh Silverbear,

What an awful thing to deal with. My mom sense would be going crazy too; and I do know how you feel about confrontation. I would leave a note, you wouldn't have to sign it. Maybe the parents aren't aware of how their child is behaving while driving. He is probably very responsible when he is driving with them. If it was my kid, I would want to know.

My thoughts are with you!
Mary

http://www.fortheloveofbaking.com

Lynn's picture

I'd leave a note too

Submitted by Lynn on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 10:27am.

Anonymous, and printed. I'd put it in an envelope addressed to them, not just lying open in the mailbox; in fact, I'd mail it. You want to make sure they get it, not the son. Keep it calm and rational, with the "if it were my son I'd want to know" vibe rather than a "your punk son!" vibe, not that you'd do that anyway.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

Lynn's picture

ps

Submitted by Lynn on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 10:28am.

I will never understand why some people think little kids should be riding around unsupervised on ATVs. I imagine it's a "know your kid" thing, because I know Jennye lets her kids do it, but I can't imagine Jennye just turning them loose either--I don't think she does that. ATVs and kids just seem like a really bad accident waiting to happen.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

jennye's picture

You know me well. I do let

Submitted by jennye on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 1:05pm.

You know me well. I do let them ride, but NEVER unsupervised. I also have a way to control how fast they ride. The smaller ATV has a throttle control that the parents can set how fast the thing goes, and we have it set pretty low. The adult ATV has a manual shift. My oldest child that rides it doesn't know how to upshift and downshift yet, I automatically set it in 1st or 2nd gear (out of 5 gears) and it won't let her go faster than that gear allows. And of course, we are always out there with them. In fact, they weren't allowed to ride it while daddy was off deerhunting.

I don't know the laws in New Mexico regarding road usage. I do know that it is a registered vehicle and has a license plate on them. Also, the road we live on is VERY rural. We are literally miles from neighbors, miles from a paved road, and our 2 mile stretch of dirt road not only has no other houses other than ours, but leads to no where and no one as well. It's safe to say the traffic on our road is 2-3 cars a day, not iincluding my own. We seldom ride on the road anyway. Hell, I have 1,200 acres to ride on, why would we go on the road! LOL!

Ok, back to the problem at hand. Rose, I agree with a letter. You avoid the personal face to face confrontation that way. It's up to you if you want to be contacted about it or not afterwards. If it were my child, I would want to know. I can't imagine a parent not wanting to know (then again, there are a lot of things I can't believe some parents don't care about).

jennye's picture

My disclaimer

Submitted by jennye on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 5:40pm.

I just wanted to add that while we do play with ATVs, we also work with them. Checking fence is easy with a 4-wheeler. I can put a few fence posts on the back and ride miles of fence. This used to be done by horseback, ya know. I can also feed cows with it when the feedtruck is broke down, herd the cattle (again, a job that used to be done by horseback), haul off the trash, and do other things around the farm. So, they are useful when used for work and used responsibly. There is no sense in speeding on the darn things.

silverbear's picture

No need for a disclaimer, Jenny

Submitted by silverbear on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 5:56pm.

I understand that ATV's have useful applications, and I have no doubt that you are responsible ATV riders. Trust me, this particular family doesn't farm. It was strictly an internal combustion engine toy, and the results were deadly.

I'm still considering the note. I'll have to ask around to find out what the family's surname is as I have forgotten it. My baser, b--chy instincts are saying that if the family doesn't care enough to teach their child to be safe and responsible, then why should I care? Let Darwinism take its natural course.

hangs head in shame, starts composing note to parents ...

Flamingogrl's picture

Call, write, post it on a billboard!

Submitted by Flamingogrl on Mon, 11/27/2006 - 8:33am.

Hurry!
Pick up that pen, or call them and tell them what you saw. What they do with the information you give them is up to them. I am sure that like most parents they have no idea that their child is behaving like this. You may be the angel that prevents this child from hurting or killing himself and others. Not only that but you may save those parents from more pain.
I had a similar situation, my daughter's ex boyfriend started doing drugs and drinking after they broke. I told his parents of my concern. They did NOT to do anything, they only said their child wouldn't do such things.
It got much worse. I think about it a lot. He was a promising athlete, intelligent, and going to have a wonderful life. My "mom sense" was screaming. I didn't listen, I watched him slip further away from who and what he was in order to fit in to his new group of friends. Another testosterone driven group of young men. What a waste.
You don't want to spend time saying "If only I had warned them about..."
Say something now, before all that is left to say is I am so sorry at the funeral.
Sorry this is so long,
Flamingogrl

Kerri's picture

No shame Rose

Submitted by Kerri on Mon, 11/27/2006 - 9:24am.

I'd be tempted to take the route of assuming the parents should know better, probably couldn't care less, and maybe don't have any control over the kid anyway (maybe they don't set boundaries son because of what happened with their other son). So don't be ashamed at all of feeling like that.

However, trying to live with the guilt if you don't say anything and something does happen... It might get scorned but at least if you make an effort to convey the problem without rubbing their noses in what happened to their other child already, then that's all you can realistically do. If you know your local police it might be worth dropping a word in their ear to keep an eye out, but that depends on your local police and your relationship with them. That would be a nice extra measure but it wouldn't work here much I don't think.

so yeah, write the note for your own benefit (then delete half of what you said the first time!) and even if they decline to do anything at least you tried to give them a heads-up, hich is more than many people would do.

good luck composing it though Rose.

Kerri.

grumpy1's picture

Testosterone teen

Submitted by grumpy1 on Mon, 11/27/2006 - 9:58am.

Do act on your intuition as a mom. As others have said, his parents may not be aware of his driving behaviors. You have already imagined how they would feel if they lost this son and you had said/done nothing. They may be angry at first but they probably have some idea about how the remaining son feels about losing his brother.

Anhata's picture

do mail the note

Submitted by Anhata on Tue, 11/28/2006 - 2:10pm.

should you choose to write it. I have the vague memory of someone telling me that putting things in people's mail boxes is illegal, it's for USPS only.

I think you should follow your instincts. If there are repercussions, you can handle those, too.

My only concern would be if the obnoxious boys put two and two together somehow and decide that the dog-walking-lady is the one who said something and catch you out walking your dog alone. I would presume that their obnoxiousness does not extend to actually harassing people face to face, but my inner-paranoid is whispering, what if? Just had to say that's my only concern with sending the parents a note.

Were it me, I would mail the note and carry a cell phone with me on dog walks just in case. And maybe a big stick.

Anhata
www.familynaturally.com
Your Family's General Store, Naturally

Post new comment

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • You may quote other posts using [quote] tags.
  • Textual smileys will be replaced with graphical ones.
  • Web and e-mail addresses are automatically converted into links.
More information about formatting options