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Submitted by Lynn on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 3:17pm.

--The real world?:

So, when was the last time you were beaten up at work? Or a bunch of mom's at the park decide to assualt another mother so they can record it on their cell phones for later viewing entertainment?

Yet, this is the abuse that some insist that children need to experience as an integral part of childhood. I want strong, capably children, but is leaving them in bad company unprotected the way to achieve that end? I don't think so.

Me neither. But then I'm one of those oversheltering, smothering homeschoolers...

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In the real world

Submitted by NanceConfer on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 5:54am.

a lot of things that pass for civilized behavior in school aren't tolerated.

From food control to bathroom privileges to mindless textbooks and testing, it's a wonder the kids come out as well as they do.

Have you guessed we are homeschoolers too? Smiling Unschoolers actually. I just saw your blog listed over at Liza's CultureKitchen and wanted to say Hi!

Nance

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not a homeschooler

Submitted by Phelan on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 6:12am.

Sorry, but yes, I would know if my child was getting beat up. If you paid attention to your child, you can spot behavior changes and can be quick to act on it. It is horrid that things like this do happen. But I don't see that it is that much different from when my mother was growing up in Hawthorn California and got beat up daily for other's enjoyment. We just have ways to record it now. {so it isn't the state of public schools today, it's the state of some public schools always}

My sons are in public schools. I live close to a small town. The worst that goes on is the bored student threatening a pipe bomb and rumors. Of course there are fights, but my sons fight here. {normal behavior for siblings. I don't allow them to fight and they know not to hit, where I can see it of course :D}

I have nothing against homeschooling, and have always supported those that do. But us public school parents, not all of us are blind to this.

This is an extreme case. I am happy that my homeschooling friends have yet to criticize me and tell me that my children are doomed because of the state of our public school system.

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your children aren't doomed

Submitted by Lynn on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 8:48am.

And the difference is that you are paying attention. Many parents are not. Bullying and fighting are quite common in school, and they're not a normal part of an adult life--or shouldn't be.

When I was bullied and beat up in school, it took a lot for me to finally tell my mom, and by that point it was pretty bad. I was getting followed home from school by a couple of former friends who were neighbors, and a different group of girls had it in for me in the school itself. I did everything to resolve it myself, but eventually I ran out of options. I think I must have had a huge target on me, somehow. I hadn't gone to grade school there, I had to dress differently (long story) and I took myself far too seriously.

I still have the (emotional) scars from those years. It took me years to figure out that if I was in an abusive situation, I could just leave; I didn't have to fight it out, and I didn't deserve it. The first time I did, I was thunderstruck: I could just leave? wow.

No one's telling you you're a bad mom, Phelan. Smiling

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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I know

Submitted by Phelan on Tue, 10/31/2006 - 2:49pm.

I wasn't really suggesting that you were calling me a bad mom. It was just the overall sense of the orignal blog entry. It read like this was a common thing, and that we {public schoolers} think that our children need to be beat up. I was never bullied, but that was because my mother tried her best to teach me how to carry myself so that I didn't become a victim.

I don't put up with bulling. My kids are aware of this and know that I will march down to the school or to the other child's house, dragging them behind me, so that they can make an apology. I know few parents are willing to do this. I also have tattled {yep I tattled} on an abusive teacher, and a bus driver. I don't think our kids should have to deal with adult behaving like children.

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