New garden toys = more garden joy

Submitted by Anhata on Mon, 04/24/2006 - 10:28pm.

Got me one of those Gardener Kneeler/Seats t'other day--took a chance and bought it without being able to try it out, but turns out it's my dream come true.

Used it this afternoon to plant my bean, rhubarb, tomato, and pepper plants. Made it soooo much easier. For the veggie garden all I have left to plant at the moment are the two cucumber plants and the cranberry bush. Then I've got to organize the herb garden and get the herbs in it. The sage plant has given up the ghost, but the rest of the herb plants waiting to be dug in seem to be OK. Didn't get the trees from Earth Day, they said they weren't going to be there, but turns out they were...whatever.

We've been altering the garden a little bit this year besides adding a new bed. The garden begins where the south wall of the garage ends. Up till now there's been a course of plywood and particle board along the back of the garage set up on concrete blocks and 2x4s or something. Gave a mud-free walkway/entrance to garage back door, etc. Except it was rotting and crushing underfoot as you walked on it, so DH took it out today. Turns out there's a deep, wide hole on one side that part of the plywood sidewalk was covering. Don't know the story there. We're wondering how to fill it in without having to buy dirt. One understands somewhat why they threw a bunch of concrete blocks in it and put a sheet of plywood on top. Sheesh.

That section of the garden, once we sort out the pit o' despair, is going to be the three bin Hot Compost section. I've decided what I really want is a hot compost system for the yard waste and a worm bin for the kitchen scraps. What I have now is a big ol pile hunkered down where the third garden bed is going to be. The big open air pile method isn't working--I have way too much wet kitchen scraps and it takes two years for the compost pile to break down, and I need the compost, like, yesterday and I need that space for something else.

We looked up plans on the web for the three bin system and DH found ones he thought were the best and I found a different set that I thought were the best EVER, and he figured out how to take the best features of each and make our own, new design cause he's that good. This is what makes our marriage so grand. For me at least.

So he priced out new lumber and it would be at least $130 to buy the needed boards new. That may not be a lot to most, but it would be a hard pinch for us. DH hopped onto Craig's List and found someone offering his torn down fence at 25 cents a board. DH got all the lumber he'll need for $10. It's not great lumber, it's weathered and he'll have to trim some edges to true them up some, but, hey, it's a compost bin, how fancy does it need to be? Way cool to get to reuse old boards on the cheap for this.

This will probably be The Big Project Of The Summer getting this bin done. Can't wait.

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I'm jealous...

Submitted by Sparrow on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 5:01pm.

Of the toys, but mostly of the progress. Our garden had a setback. We tilled it Friday, but Saturday we had torrential rains.
Hard rain + bare dirt = Lots of soil in my yard instead of my garden. Sticking out tongue
The rain carved two gullies 4-6" deep across the width of the garden, leaving behind only the rocks I'd like to get out of the garden. How annoying. I thought I was about done with the earthmoving, but no. I'm not sure how much of what ran into the yard I can recover; it's spread in a shallow layer and the grass makes it difficult to dig up. We'll see.

Great deal on the compost bin lumber! Smiling I have a Green Cone composter, which I really like. If you're working with heavy clay, though, make sure to dig a bigger hole for it and line it with gravel. I didn't, and water tends to sit in mine. I get smelly sludge instead of nice black compost, but the plants don't seem to care that much.

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Sorry about the erosion, that's heartbreaking!

Submitted by Anhata on Tue, 04/25/2006 - 11:24pm.

Can you get some tarps to cover the dirt for the next time it rains? Would that even help?

That green cone composter is amazing, it looks basically like a submerged worm bin composter except you can put in more kinds of stuff. Are those even available in the states? Couldn't tell from the website, though apparently they're making headway in Spain!

My soil is practically pure garden loam. The river (Columbia, I presume) used to run through here and the soil drains beautifully in most spots in the yard, stays moist, digs up easily except for the river cobbles and pebbles we encouter everywhere we spade, and is, in general, great stuff. Some places in Portland along the Willamette River have solid red clay for soil, but not round these parts.

And if you think my soil sounds good, you should see Lynn's. Man. Plus now she's got chickens fertilizing it, you've never seen happier grass or dandelions. Or wild carrots or cowslip. It's like a feral meadow out there, I love it.

Anhata
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feral meadow

Submitted by Lynn on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 9:13am.

That's the best description of my yard, EVER. I always say if I spit out there, I'd get a crop of children. The soil is amazing.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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Erosion, Green Cone Sources

Submitted by Sparrow on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 7:40am.

I think (hope?) that the erosion was the result of the rare and unfortunate alignment of the very recent tilling and very hard rain. It was pretty bad--roads were flooding all over the place, which is unusual here. Just one of those times when it keeps raining and raining until everything's waterlogged and the water has nowhere to go. I've gotten my low wire fence dug in at the back of the garden and I'm hoping the trench I dug for it might divert some of the water around the garden. When I get a little further I'll put down landscaping fabric, and that should help, too. I still have to put the dirt back before I get to that, though.

Yep, you can get a Green Cone in the U.S., though they seem more popular in Europe. This site has them, along with a lot of other composters. I also found it on eBay and here for a little less. I read they're widely used in the UK, too. Sounds like you have great soil there, so drainage probably wouldn't be a problem. I really like that I can dump almost anything in there except fats--they apparently don't break down well. Large bones and corn cobs tend to stick around a while, too, but I put them in anyway. It's also hard for animals and/or children to get into the composter, which is great. It doesn't produce huge amounts of compost and doesn't deal with yard waste, which could be drawbacks, but it's nice for all the kitchen scraps that I don't want to carry away to the dump myself. Clearing it out is a little bit of a pain, though. It has 6 screws to join the upper and lower baskets, and you have to line the holes up just right to put them back. Not exactly easy when the basket is sunk into the ground and the composter is kind of gross after use. Still, I manage.

The soil there sounds marvelous. Here we just have this heavy red clay that stains clothes and compacts to the point where we had to get a pick/mattock to break it up. Wish you could send me some nice dark loam! Eye-wink

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I'd like a compost bin

Submitted by Honey on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 9:26am.

I have the smallest yard in the world. It's literally about fifteen steps from the kitchen door to the end of the yard, and it's triangular. The fifteen steps are to the furthest point! The front yard is about the same length, but square. I love gardening, though of necessity it is on a small scale, I do have several beds and an array of containers every summer. I'd love to make my own compost, does it smell much? I am worried that if I had a compost bin it would be smelly and there isn't anywhere to put it that's a long way from the house Sticking out tongue

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Compost smell

Submitted by Sparrow on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 5:09pm.

Well...mine smells in the summer, but yours might not if you have better drainage than I do. With our heavy soil, water tends to sit in the dug-in basket of my Green Cone, which is not the way it's designed to work. Also in the summer (and this is gross), maggots get in. Lots of them, and quite large. I've read that maggots are a sign your compost is too wet and ants are a sign your compost is too dry, so I think they're more of the same problem--too little drainage, too much water. You might not get them, or maybe everyone gets them, I don't know. They don't help the smell, though. I think half of my compost in the summer is really maggot poop, and it stinks. Sticking out tongue

Anyone else compost and want to comment on the smell (or lack of it?)

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Compost done right does not smell

Submitted by Anhata on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 5:19pm.

You must keep your "browns" and "greens" balanced--one part green stuff (fresh cut grass, coffee grounds, kitchen scraps) to two parts brown (dried up plants, branches, fall leaves) and it'll compost properly.

It also helps to have everything in the compost cut up into small chunks, either with your pruning sheers or a pair of scissors for the smaller stuff. The smaller the pieces the quicker it composts. This is also true with kitchen scraps, otherwise you'll have banana peels, egg shells, and pineapple crowns in your compost forEVER. They do not willing compost unless you cut em up (or crush in the case of the egg shells).

What do you need to compost, mostly kitchen scraps or mostly yard waste? I've read of a compost method that uses a littlish bucket called EM Composting. You fill the bucket up with kitchen scraps (no bones or liquids), add little packet of micro-organizms, and they ferment the stuff for you then you put it in the garden.

If you need to compost just yard waste just cut it all down into small pieces and sprinkle it over your flower beds, that's a form of compost called Sheet Composting.

My compost has waaaaay too much kitchen scraps in proportion to the dry stuff so it's soggy and a little bit smelly and takes forever to break down. That's why I need the worm compost or the green cone.

I also need a shredder/chipper to get the yard waste cut down to size. I've got small branches in the compost heap that are NOT breaking down of their own accord. DH has agreed to help me scout for a used one, otherwise a Hot Compost pile will not be possible.

Anhata
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No smell

Submitted by Shaun on Wed, 04/26/2006 - 5:54pm.

We have two compost areas.

One is a big pile contained by chicken wire, maybe about 10 sq. feet (a little more than 3x3). Very rarely does it smell -- only when we turn it after a long sitting still time, and then only for a moment. This is where yard scraps, fall leaves, spring leaves (i.e., leaves that didn't quite get off the ground before the first big snow), and kitchen scraps go.

We also have a Smith & Hawken composter, the kind with tiers that you rotate somehow. (I am not the gardener in this family.) At this point we kind of use this as the 2nd stage composter. Like after the big pit has broken down some, and we've taken some out of the S&H model, we move some of the big pit compost into the enclosed S&H composter.

We've never worried about ratio of green to brown, but then again we always have sooooo many leaves, branches, etc., that it is hard to overwhelm them. That and we don't compost during the winter -- everything is packed to the top with leaves, and most of the time everything is covered with snow.

We live in a moderately humid climate, but I don't know what the drainage in our yard is like. Pretty good, I think.

Shaun
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