more on my stillbirth
This is going to be long and sad, and if anyone doesn't want to read it, my feelings will not be hurt. It probably would be hard for a lot of people to read especially if they are pregnant, so I'm only posting it for the benefit of anyone who does want to know more details. I'm actually copying and pasting some of this from another site where I post regularly, just FYI.
The ultrasound showing no heartbeat was on Friday, August 12, and the induction was on Monday, August 15. I could have had it done on Friday, but I have some troubles with access to veins. The anesthesiologist found a few that could work (two in my inner wrists and one in my right foot), but said if I ended up needing a lot of blood or extra fluids, I'd need a central line, and he didn't want to risk having to call in radiology for that over the weekend because they might take longer to arrive. So we decided it was safer to do it on Monday. Plus I was more rested on Monday, though still not as rested as I would have liked.
So I got there Monday at 6 a.m. (hence the "not as rested as I would have liked" part). The actual induction started with the first Cytotec dose at 10 a.m., and contractions began around 11:30 a.m. I almost didn't need the epidural. Labor lasted about 12 hours and I didn't ask for the epi until an hour or hour and a half ahead of delivery, nor did I ask for Demerol until about three and a half hours before delivery. (Obviously you can get more narcotics, later in the game, if there is a known stillbirth and hence no concerns about the baby's safety.) By that time it was pretty clear that the labor contractions were not going to get any worse, and it was just a question of being tired and needing something to help me rest. Afterwards, the nurse said she thought that for the next, hopefully much happier time, if I go into labor spontaneously and am able to sleep/ rest/ eat at home during the early part of it, I will be able to do the whole thing med-free if that is what I decide. Plenty of time to think about that though. Labor was equal to but not worse than the worst IBD pain I've ever felt, and of course lasted for a much shorter time. The epidural made me itch and the spot where it went in is still sore, although not irritated like the nerve from the spinal tap. My mom said it would only stay sore for a few days.
Anyhow, that's the drug story. Also the anesthesiologist was miraculously able to find a vein in my wrist for an IV, which held up for all 24 hours I had it in. (And, God bless him, he actually gave me a shot of lidocaine before digging around in my wrist.) He told me to start lifting weights again and that might make my veins enlarge enough to get around some of the scarring next time I need an IV. The position of the IV meant that the fluids were going in really fast sometimes, even when the nurse dialed them down, plus I was on clear liquids all day, so I was peeing every two minutes and my cold is gone. That's a good side effect.
I ended up deciding to see the baby, which was fascinating. She was, in fact, a girl, and really looked a lot like the ultrasound pictures. She had some hair but we couldn't tell the color, and she must have been dead for a couple of weeks because her bones were softened. She was 11 1/2 inches and 440 grams (almost 1 pound). Of course delivery itself was easy and I am barely sore afterwards; we should all be born at 1 pound with soft bones.
The L and D room we were in was in the high-risk ward, and we were given lots of privacy since there was no need for fetal monitoring or anything. It was only my designated visitors in with me most of the time. After the delivery they put us in a postpartum room which was sort of separated from most of the other postpartum rooms, so we didn't see a lot of babies. I saw a couple of newborns on the way out, but it didn't really impact me much. They looked so big in comparison to my little one, it was as if I were looking at teenagers right after losing a baby-- just not the same thing.
We had a doula with us to help give moral support and so forth. She was great, really helpful, and I think everyone should have one during labor. DH, my mom, and my cousin were also in and out of the room. My cousin was very helpful. She is a CNA at the hospital in the orthopedics and urology departments (insert your own joke here) and found me a bedpan when I couldn't get out of bed for the first hour after the second Cytotec dose. Well, I could have gotten out of bed, but it would have slowed down labor and I wanted to get it done.
The whole thing with seeing the baby was not how I expected it to be. I knew DH didn't want to see her, which was fine with me; I didn't really care if he was in the room at the time of delivery. It ended up that no one in my family was there, it was just the doctor, the nurse, and the doula, and I was fine with that-- it took some of the pressure off me and allowed me to concentrate on what I really wanted. The actual viewing wasn't what I would really call a bonding moment. Both DH and I had bonded with her months before, when we saw her on the ultrasounds and later felt her kick. DH only was able to feel her kick once, so I'm glad he got that opportunity. When I looked at her it was more a matter of curiosity. The ultrasounds we had were very high-level, and she looked exactly like them in real life.
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Becky, thank you for sharing.
Becky, thank you for sharing.
I'm glad you got to bond with her before she had died.
Just wondering, did you name her?
sort of
Our original plan was that she would have two middle names (like George Herbert Walker Bush
). She would have a regular first name, a regular middle name, then my last name (Morris) as a second middle name, then DH's last name (Gross) as her last name. The first and middle names we had chosen were to honor two departed relatives who were very dear to us, so we decided to keep those names in case we have another girl because we still want those relatives to be honored in a living way, if you see what I mean. But we gave her our last names in the original order. So the death certificate says "Baby Morris Gross." We both decided on our own that we wanted to do it that way, so it was a relief to find out that we agreed without having to negotiate.
Becky,
Thank you for sharing your story.
No words fit but you are in my thoughts and prayers.
Be kind and gentle with yourself.
Jana
Thanks for telling us about it, Becky
I wish I knew the right thing to say. I can only think that you are such a strong, brave woman. My prayers are with you and your family for a peaceful recovery.
Shaun
Becky
I wish I had a hug emoticon.
Please be extra-gentle with yourself and come talk here, or don't, as the spirit moves you.
xxoo,
Lynn Siprelle, Editor
how I've been
In answer to questions about how I've been feeling, both on here and in e-mails: I have basically been going through all 5 stages of grief every day, usually more than once a day. (I try to stay offline during the "Anger" phases; my in-person friends and relatives get to deal with that part, because it involves my snapping at them.) The doctor's orders to go for two walks a day have been helpful in keeping my spirits up.
I had always heard that a stillbirth or loss of a child is different from anything else you can imagine. But I haven't found any difference from the emotions I experience when any close relative dies. I guess the thoughts are different, and maybe if we had less help from local and visiting family, the logistics would be more overwhelming. But so far the feelings are identical.
Becky
I haven't been around much lately but please know that I have thought of you often over the last few days.
Please take care of yourself.
Jamie Lea
Thinking of you
And keeping you, your DH, and your baby girl still close to my heart.
Blessings,
Lenora
Praying for you
Hi, I'm new to the site, and I read your post. Your story touched my heart, and I wanted to let you know that you're in my prayers. I can't imagine what you're going thru, but I know that with time comes healing, and I pray that you'll be overwhelmed with the comfort of Christ even now. God bless you in this difficult time.
We decided to give her a first name
We figured out a way to give this baby her first and first-middle names, and still name any future daughter after the same people without the names' being too similar. So her full name was Laurel Ruth Morris Gross. Laurel was my grandfather's photography studio (Laurel Studios) and Ruth was MIL's middle name. We had trouble figuring out derivations of their names that we both liked for girls, but as I said we came up with another so now our future great-grandchildren will be able to visit "great-aunt Laurel's" gravestone (we had her cremated but plan to bury the ashes in a cemetery, haven't decided yet whether to use DH's family plot or mine).
Becky,
I am so sorry!
I'm glad to hear you held her and looked at her. You will be glad that you did all your life. You made a good choice with her name.
Please know I empathize with you deeply.
Love,
Susannah
It's a beautiful name, Becky
xo.
Lynn Siprelle, Editor
Really beautiful
Becky, I don't know how to word this right, so I hope you'll get the spirit of it. I am so glad to see how carefully and attentively you are going through this awful process of grieving. I admire you for not running from it, trying to forget it, which would be such an understandable response.
You make a lovely choice with her name, and it's wonderful that you have a burial place and a way to honor her and her place in your family.
Shaun
an abundance of riches
In terms of burial places, that is! We have possibilities on my mom's side of my family, my dad's side of my family, and Rob's family (three different specific cemeteries). So we're taking our time making a firm decision; that's one reason we had her cremated. Thank you all muchly for your support, again.
Susannah, didn't you lose a Laurel as well? It seems like someone on TNH did. I was thinking about it. I didn't actually hold her because she was so squishy I was a little concerned about messing up the autopsy, but I did touch her foot. I got the final autopsy report yesterday at my postpartum checkup, and it didn't show anything, but my doctor did some more research in the past month and found out about some other blood tests she can give me to cover all bases.
As you can see I'm not online much lately but I hope to rectify our internet problem this week.
Yes
Mine was Laura, but of course the name is derived from Laurel. I liked that both the girls' names were botanical in origin; gave sort of an "evenness" or balance to their names. And the laurel and olive both have significance as symbols of victory and peace. They also both had middle names beginning with "B" (Brooke and Blythe). I hadn't wanted "rhyme-y" twin names, but I did want them to be equivalent in some way.
She was delivered four weeks after her death, so I know what you mean about holding her, although both DH and I did anyway. We had been prepared by the doctor what to expect. I could still see her facial features fine and her fingers and toes looked normal, it was just that her body was soft. We didn't want an autopsy, as I was pretty well convinced it was a cord accident because her twin sister was perfectly healthy. My O.B. told me autopsies don't usually turn anything up, and there's no way to tell for certain about the cord after delivery, of course.
Anyway, don't mean to go on about it in your thread, but my heart really goes out to you and your DH. I think of you all the time and pray for you. (((Hugs)))
My thoughts are with you
Becky, I have read this whole thread and my thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband. While I never had a stillbirth, I did have three miscarriages in a row. The mix of emotions are just so hard to describe. The doctors told me I couldn't carry a fetus. Hmm. I wish those same doctors could see my beautiful Kaylie who is 18 and my boy Max, 14. Keep the faith, Becky. I try to tell myself there is a reason for everything, maybe it was a higher power telling me that the children I had lost weren't healthy and were destined for somewhere else.
Hugs to you.
Marlene
Double middle names
I've done that with all my kids. I just had too many names I wanted to use. I think it's pretty neat.
autopsies
From what I've read, the presence of a healthy twin usually rules out most things that they'd autopsy for. In our case, since she was a singleton AND my first, there were a lot more uncertainties as to cause. So we decided to get an autopsy as soon as we found out she had died. Laurel's facial features were already softened when she was born (at her level of gestation I'm not sure they formed completely in the first place), and I think I was concerned that the pathologist might suspect a chromosomal abnormality if she looked distorted and go off on a wild goose chase. We do have pictures of her though. The nurse even took them with a tiny stuffed squirrel that she put in with the memory box, so we can tell the scale.
Ditto
I agree, this was very powerful, very touching to read.
http://www.MSPmedia.net
Oh, Becky, I am so glad you h
Oh, Becky, I am so glad you have pictures to treasure. It sounds like the staff there was very good about being sensitive to bereaved parents. I found the same at our hospital too.
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