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My FIL has just been added to the receipient-waiting list for a heart transplant.

I can't bring myself to pray for one, though, as it generally means that some otherwise healthy (probably much younger) person has had an untimely, tragic death.

I believe in organ donation, and have all papers on file and have had the conversations necessary for me to be an organ doner myself....but I just can't "wish" it...KWIM?

Prayers for FIL, DH, and all "future others" involved would be welcome.

Thanks, friends

Lenora

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Did you get any indication of

heidic's picture

Did you get any indication of where he is on the waiting list? I too am an organ donor as stated on my driver's license. My family is aware as well. But I didn't know what other papers I needed to have??

Positive thoughts going his way.

Heidi

I know Lenora

Kerri's picture

I'm very glad that he one organ my mother needs - a kidney - doesn't require me to pray hard for someone's death!

but think of it this way... you aren't praying for someone's death... people die all the time anyway. What you're praying for is that someone who is going to die anyway has a suitable heart for your FIL. You're praying for the right match, not someone's death.

And I can pray for that with you Lenora. Also that the wait isn't too long because it drains the strength of everyone.

Kerri.

You, your hubby, FIL and his family

Jana's picture

are in my prayers. I second what Kerri said. We can pray that if people want to donate that they take the proper steps so that when it is their time someone else can live longer from their heart.

I know your feelings are mixed up and confusing. Not on one issue but on the other. This is a tough issue on all sides! It can be very stressful time for all families involved. My prayers are for everyone involved!

Jana

((((hugs))))

Honey's picture

Lots of love to FIL and all of you, Lenora.

love, Honey xx

Bring to light your wishes!

Rooney's picture

Your local hospital has paper work for living wills or advance directive.
Most advance directives contain a section about organ donation where you can express your wishes as to whether or not you want to donate your organs or tissues upon your death. But organ donors who do not have an advance directive also need a way to let their families and doctors know their wishes. Your family will ultimately decide whether or not to donate your organs. Being able to read your wishes about organ donation will make their decision-making much easier, but discussing your wishes with your family now is the best way to help them make this decision.
Please make sure you are registered, if you want to go on-line and do it here

This is not a flippant thing...as Kerri stated, people die all the time, to add to that; alot of them would have liked to donate, but never let anyone know.

AnneP.
A child enters your home and makes so much noise you can hardly stand it--then departs, leaving the house so quiet you think you'll go mad. -Dr. J.A. Holmes

All of the world

Candice's picture

In Australia, the organ transplant/donation issue is just so neglected. We also have licences that state whether or not a person wishes to donate, but should the worst happen all it takes is for the NOK to refuse the donation and all the plans have fallen apart. it really took until a very very high profile celebrity died here that people really started to think about organ donation and make their wishes clear to their loved ones as well as on their licences.
Lenora, as an ICU nurse myself i know how difficult this time will be for both you and your family. My thoughts are with you at this time.

Update

lgunnoe's picture

After telling my FIL that he will not live without a heart transplant, a team of doctors has determined that he is NOT a viable candidate for a new heart after all...He is, of course looking for other opinions and options, but basicaly it doesn't look good.

Dh and I are trying to arrange a trip to see him, (DH and FIL are not close) and we both feel that "sooner" is better than "later," and certainly more purposeful that "after."

It is a sad and difficult situation. Thanks for caring!

Blessings,
Lenora
Love nurtures, develops, cares for,
Shelters, comforts, and makes a home for us.
~Laozi

I'm sorry

Becky's picture

Lenora, you should probably be able to get a compassionate plane fare if time is short, or even if it might be. DH and I got one last month from United when FIL had a heart attack and we wanted to go see him in the hospital, even though he ended up surviving and doing well so far.

My thoughts are with you

Candice's picture

Lenora, my best wishes are with you and your family and your FIL at this time. I hope things turn out ok and that a viable option can be found to at least assist your FIL in enlonging his life and its quality in the meantime. Prayers.

Oh heck...

Kerri's picture

did the doctors explain why your FIL isn't considered a viable candidate?? Is it anything he can hope to remedy??

I hope your DH and FIL, and the girls too, have a particularly meaningful visit. It's a lesson to all of us not to let things drag... as you say, 'after' is pointless.

Which reminds me... I got this Irish proverb in one of my many newsletters yesterday (they were all bloody Irish yesterday!):

Tis better to buy a small bouquet
And give to your friend this very day,
Than a bushel of roses white and red
To lay on his coffin after he's dead.

how's about we all try to mend a bridge today... as well as thinking of Lenora and her family.

Kerri.

So sorry

Honey's picture

I'm so sorry to hear this news, Lenora. Thinking of your FIL and all of you,

Honey xx

Latest on FIL

lgunnoe's picture

My FIL has held on longer than expected and his other health concerns were reduced enough for the medical teams to place him on the transplant list at the beginning of the summer at a priority of "1B" (lower than those at "1A."

In the last few days his condition has deteriorated so much that he is now at the top of the list but if he does not get a heart this week-end they will have to perform surgery to hook him to a mechanical heart pump...or he will die.

Please do whatever you do to connect with a higher power and petition that all works for the greatest good, and that all involved parties receive the maximum grace available from the universe.

Thanks

Blessings,
Lenora

In my prayers {{{{}}}}

Marlene's picture

Lenora, you and yours are in my prayers.
Marlene

Candle lit

Honey's picture

and thinking good thoughts for your father in law and all the family.

Love
Honey xx

Prayers said!

Jana's picture

Jana

Candles burning

Anhata's picture

I'm so sorry your family and your FIL are going through such a harrowing experience. I'm lighting a candle and praying for everything to work out for the greatest and highest good for all concerned.

Anhata
www.familynaturally.com
Your Family's General Store, Naturally

Pray Harder...

lgunnoe's picture

Tuesday, 5:07 EST: FIL is surgery right now...NOT with a heart...just trying to keep him alive long enough to get one. Sad SIGH. It looks to be a long evening.

Blessings,
Lenora

thinking of you, Lenora

Lynn's picture

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

prayers

Andrea's picture

Lenora - My thoughts and prayers to you and your family - I hope your FIL will get through this ordeal - Andrea

Lenora

jamielea's picture

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family tonight.

Update

lgunnoe's picture

FIL was put on a mechanical heart pump (9/20) in the hopes that it would keep him alive long enough for a transplant. On Thursday (9/29) he was put on a ventilator, as well. Today (10/3) they have added dialysis due to kidney failure, and it looks like his liver is shutting down, too.

We are just waiting.

SIL is there, and on Saturday she felt like FIL was conscious enought to know she was there, so that helps.

Thanks for your prayers and warm thoughts, friends...they do wonders for my soul.

Blessings,
Lenora

Oh Lenora

Lynn's picture

So sorry. May his passing be gentle and may you all be there for each other.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

So sorry

Andrea's picture

So sorry to hear this Lenora - blessings upon him and all of your family.
Andrea

tough times

Kerri's picture

it sounds like the best you can really hope for now is that he passes quickly and without further discomfort. Must be very hard for all of you to see the deterioration - hang in there.

Kerri.

thinking of you

Becky's picture

I hope he is able to be comfortable.

Peace

lgunnoe's picture

My FIL passed away a few hours ago. We are saddened, to be sure, but also comforted by the knowledge that he is at peace.

Love you all for your support!

Lenora

Lenora, I'm sorry the transpl

jennye's picture

Lenora, I'm sorry the transplant never came thru. But I'm sure he is at peace now.
love to you and your family!
Jenny

So sorry

Honey's picture

Lenora, I am so sorry to hear this news. Love to you, DH and all the family.
Honey xx

Sorry

silverbear's picture

This is sad news. I am glad to know that you are able to imagine your FIL at peace.
Rose

sorry

Becky's picture

I am sorry about your FIL.

My thoughts are with you and your family.

Jana's picture

Jana

Very sorry

Shaun's picture

I am thinking of you and your family too.
Shaun

Sorry

jamielea's picture

Lenora, your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

((((Lenora)))))

Susannah's picture

I hope your DH and girls are doing okay. I pray for your comfort and peace.

Love,

Susannah

I am so sorry

Anhata's picture

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Sometimes the only comfort you have is that your loved one is no longer in pain, but finally at rest and knows peace.
_____

They that love beyond the world cannot be separated by it. Death cannot kill what never dies.

- William Penn

Prayers for you and your family

Zillah's picture

I'm so sorry about your FIL Lenora. I'm thinking about you and your family.

Zillah

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