Any advice on Fost-Adopt Programs?

Submitted by Anhata on Tue, 11/02/2004 - 12:26am.

I've wanted to get involved with foster programs, specifically fost/adopt programs, for a few years now, but I'm short on information and long on fears.

I've done some research, still researching, but I was wondering if anyone here had any knowledge of or advice about fost/adopt programs or adopting a foster child?

The safety of our DD4 is first and foremost my greatest concern. I don't think I can handle a severly emotionally disturbed child and I know I can't let into my home a child hurt enough to hurt DD or another child.

Do these programs let couples adopt who intend to homeschool?

DH and I would like to have one more child together, hopefully a boy. But I also want to do the fost/adopt program, but haven't talked to anyone who's done it. Any thoughts?

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Adopting from Foster for us was great!

Submitted by Rooney on Tue, 11/02/2004 - 5:16am.

Hi, !
We have 4 kids that came out of CYFD(children, youth and Fam division) here in New Mexico. I am unable to birth children.
We adopted our first 4 years ago when he was 4. Was pretty easy, he had a pretty yucky life, but really did thrive with love and boundries.
We adopted 3 more one year ago(DS6, and twin DD5, 11months apart), and like you our only child was the important factor, he was "ours" already. I didn't want him to be tortured by kids that had been hurt. We decided he would be the oldest. I wish I could say the transition went real smooth. DS8 had some bad moments of jealousy. He was the tormenter, not horrible, but sneaky.
We are over the one year mark, and things flow smoother. Well, as smooth as you can with four kids! We are looking into 2 more. So I guess, like childbirth, the pain and waiting are hard, but when you see your baby grow and the love you have for them seem to take all the room in your heart, and you do it again. Adopting is the same.
I don't know what state you are in, but like any profession, there are good social workers and bad. We were blessed with one of the best here. Call the local CYFD or Child Protection Service (CPS) and ask for how to start. Get informed on what needs to happen on your end, and what they do for you. My DH and I had an agreement on what degree of social, physical, medical, and emotional abused children we could handle. We did the lowest denominator. I would take anyone, he knows me and my limitations, and his decision although lower than I wanted to be was the rule. It helped us alot.
"It's nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice."

AnneP.

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I worked in my states welfare

Submitted by Fern on Tue, 11/02/2004 - 9:02am.

I worked in my states welfare office for several years. . .in the clerical part mind you. . not dealing with placing children, etc. It put me in a place where I heard things though. . . some of which were wonderful stories and also some situations that didn't work out.

Going on all that I saw and heard, personally I would first take the child as a foster child and see how he/she works into your family as far as personalities, getting along with or influence they may have over your child you already have, etc.

The saddest things I've heard regarding adoptions is stories from people I know about people they know. One lady said a friend of hers gave a baby back to the agency/state. . .wherever she adopted from. . because the child became sickly and required lots of medical treatment. They were not aware of this need when they adopted. If they had given it back out of care for the child and not being able to afford proper medical care would have been one thing, but her words were "They gave it back because they said they asked for and expected a healthy baby." Well, you know what. Even natural parents aren't guaranteed a healthy baby. From what I understood, they'd had this child about 6 months.

Another couple adopted a little girl. They later divorced and neither wanted to raise her alone. They ended up adopting her out to another family. Can you imagine the self worth issues that child must have?

Please understand I'm not trying to rain on your parade! I'm just inserting caution here to proceed, with full knowledge of all the things that can happen, considering how quickly life circumstances can change, etc.

In some states, the medical thing would have to be considered. . . talking about special needs children. I don't know for sure, but at one time their medical stuff was taken care of by the state while the child was in foster care, but when adopted the child automatically went onto the new parents insurance, etc. This can create an enormous financial load on a couple, especially if it is a long term illness. Every state is different and I have no idea if this holds true now.

When we were first looking into adoption and were checking out some orphanages, we learned that many times families take orphans into their homes during the holidays or for weekends, etc. If you considered going through an orphanage, this might also be a way to get acquainted with the child prior to the word "adoption" ever being mentioned.

All that said, I have two adopted children and like Anne said, it doesn't take long and they are "yours". We tend to even forget about the adoption part of their coming into our family and its like "they've always been". Ours were adopted at birth though, so I'm sure Anne will be the greatest source of knowledge of the ups and downs of this subject for you.

I'm curious about your adoptions Anne. . .were you able to bring the kids into your home to see how things would work out. . get acquainted, etc. or did you just do the adoption and take them home?

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[were you able to bring the k

Submitted by Rooney on Tue, 11/02/2004 - 10:02am.

[were you able to bring the kids into your home to see how things would work out.]
Fern,
having posted here off and on for years, I know you are a kind and very generous person. Please don't think I am flaming you or angry at you. Smiling : )
This one of my hardest questions that people ask, and amazingly ask alot. My skin is getting a little thicker. Smiling
As a foster family can be many things for children.
1. An emergency place for family fights/police intervention. There is also a need for respite families. Giving full time foster a break.
2. A home that works with birth family to reunite them. Parent/s doing their end, and foster family helping the child in trusting parents again.
3. A holding spot til a "match" is made for the child to be adopted. You prepare the child for this family. Making life books, and helping them in the transition.
On the transition~the way it is supposed to happen is you get all info(disclosure) from social worker, medical, psych, and input from teachers, other people in this childs life. You have to take 3 days to make a decision to go forward. If the answer is yes, then you are supposed to go to the foster family, have dinner, and over the time length of 3months visit the child and have them visit you.
But, that works good on paper. Sometimes the foster family just stink! (both of ours did some pretty mean things), and the kids must be moved. These are little hearts that have been hurt in ways NO CHILD should have to HURT!
With Eric we got a call on the 12th of November, and picked him up on the 29th of November. His birth mom had a new boyfriend and just didn't want him anymore, tried to sell him to another family using the system, (for the money from the state) She relinquished her rights.
With Gabriel, Abby and Anna, we got a call on the 25 of August, and picked them up on the 2nd of Sept. They came in as "foster" with hopes that birth mom would relinquish her rights or the state had a pretty solid case they would terminate her rights.
We had a quick disclosure~had what we could~hoped and prayed for the rest.
My husband says, well heck guess that's our ultra sound.
Yes, people do give them back just like they were a puppy from the pound.
The guidelines and hurdles though we had to cross just to get to the point where we were even able to be considered for adoption is a very personnel and tough one, very gut wrenching. People do slip thru.
As to finances~there is alot of money in Fostering...but me, I could never let a child leave my house once they were there. Smiling But most states know the pyschological benefits of adoption and there are subsidies for the child that is adopted also. Not to mention big benifits at tax time!
But the joy of watching these kids grow up with a smile and sparke in their eyes. We DID NOT do this to be altrusic, we were selfish people who desperately wanted kids. We all won!

"It's nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice."

AnneP.

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No, you weren't sounding angr

Submitted by Fern on Tue, 11/02/2004 - 4:40pm.

No, you weren't sounding angry or put out in the least in your post, Anne. I apologize that my question caused you discomfort. I didn't realize it was too personal a question to ask.

My first post was meant to point out other sides of the issue for Anhata to consider also. Sometimes our heart tends to overrule our head and this is a lifetime commitment that is irreversible for most people (like you and me & Anhata too I'm thinking!). Me blabbing on about what "can happen" was in no way directed at your situation. I remember when you were here before and were working toward your first adoption. You obviously put a lot of thought and commitment into your decisions. Those are the ones that do work out. I think what you are doing is wonderful and I wish your family the happiness you all deserve.

My remarks about foster first were brought on from hearing horror stories of adoptions that didn't work out. A get acquainted period would work just as well I assume. You're certainly right in saying there are different types of foster situations and foster parents don't always have their hearts in the right place.

Another thing to remember is that all states have different policies and ways of doing these things so it pays for those interested to check closely into those policies in the state you are living in.

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