How are inlaws different from outlaws? Outlaws are wanted.

mindymonster's picture
Submitted by mindymonster on Sun, 02/29/2004 - 11:29pm.

Ok, a little history. My husband brother, Frank, is a homeless drunk. Every other week or so he shows up on my doorstep, crashes on my couch for a few days, and then leaves. I don't like it, but I understand that my hubby loves his brother, and I know that it it were one of my siblings I'd do the same thing. Anyway, he showed up at my house Friday morning. (My husband actually had to go pick him up at the jail.) He immediatly went into the garage and found some wine I'd put there. He drank a bottle darn near right then and their. Then Kenny took me to the dentist to have my tooth pulled, and took Frank to go get his bike from the jail. We went home and Frank crashed on the couch, which is normal behavior. The next morning he went out and got another bottle! I had Daniels birthday party on Saturday, and Kenny couldn't be there, 'cause he had to work. Frank's kids and ex wife were there. Frank woke up briefly to eat cake and ice cream, and went back to sleep. Then Kenny got home, and saw Frank passed out on the couch with the bottle of wine next to him. To say that Kenny was not pleased would be an understatement. His exact words were "I don't work my a$$ off so he can lay around and drink my alchohol." So we went out and hid the rest of it. Then this afternoon, just as I was laying down to take a nap there was a knock at my door! He had asked Muna to bring his kids over this afternoon! I don't mind having them, frankly I'd have said yes if he'd asked! I love having them here. But that's besides the point. He does not freaken live here! He does not pay rent, he does't even help out around here. Am I wrong to think that he should have shown THE COURTESY of asking? Or at least letting me know they were coming. AND THEN he slept through at least half their vist. Jackson (his 10 year old) finally had to SIT on him to wake him up! It was freaken ridiculous. I think that me and him are going to have to have a little talk. Arrg! Not to mention he wouldn't stop hitting on Muna, his ex, once she got here. I was beginning to think that I was gonna have to intervene. Disgusting drunk. If I were Muna I'd have kneeded him. Evil

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I'm no expert on this...

Submitted by Susannah on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 8:12am.

But I think the AA philosophy is to stop enabling the alcoholic. That would be your DH's issue, though, probably not yours. And I can't imagine it would be easy to do. If I were you, I'd research alcoholism (especially how to deal with alcoholic loved ones) and present your findings to your DH. Then step back and let him do whatever he will with it, which may be nothing.

I can't help but feel sorry for the guy.

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a suggestion

Submitted by silverbear on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 8:24am.

I have no direct experience, but I understand that Al-Anon is very helpful for people who are impacted by the alcoholic. Perhaps this could be a good resource for you, in terms of finding strategies to deal with the impact of Frank's behaviour on your household.
Sending warm thoughts your way ..
Rose

Lynn's picture

Al-Anon

Submitted by Lynn on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 8:24am.

Go to an Al-Anon meeting. Actually go to six different ones (as in, they meet in different places and at different times) before you make up your mind whether they can help you. The people in that fellowship are supportive, compassionate and nonjudgemental. It's help for YOU, not the alcoholic; it's not about how you can change your brother-in-law, it's about how you can help yourself.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

Becky's picture

echo for the six different ones

Submitted by Becky on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 10:10am.

because I have been told that some are really fantastic and some are not very good-- depending on who's in them, I guess.

mindymonster's picture

Al Anon

Submitted by mindymonster on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 10:48am.

Actually, my mom and my dad (and both step parents) are recovering alcoholic/addicts. I've been attending AA meeting with my mom since I was 8. I've also tried a variety of al anon, and al a teen meeting over my life, and I've found that they're full of whiners and blamers. I once found a really good alanon meeting, but I was visiting my dad in san francisco, so I had to leave it when I went back to Oregon. As for enabling Frank, I know that we should, but in this case it's up to Kenny. It's his brother. As for feeling sorry for him - I used to, until he threatened to kill Muna (he was cranking out), or when he told his 9 year old daughter that if she were old enough he'd 'give' her to a friend of his. Or when he tried to get his 9 and 14 year old boys to join his skinhead friends. (FYI - his kids are half arabic - something Frank 'conveniently' forgets). He's also offered his 14 year old whiskey, and prostitutes (which he turned down). I feel sorry for his poor kids, and his ex wife. He's brough everything down on himself.

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Not entirely up to Kenny

Submitted by Lynn on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 11:49am.

Whose house is it? Kenny's? Or yours and Kenny's? Frank sounds like a real piece of work and I wouldn't let him row down Johnson Creek past my yard let alone into my house. But that's me. Smiling

I'm sorry you weren't able to find a good Al-Anon meeting. The whiners and blamers are there because they need to learn how not to be whiners and blamers, and Al-Anon's a great place to do that. It's kinda like a good place to find drunks is AA. Eye-wink I haven't been to it in quite a while but the Monday night meeting at St. Paul's Lutheran on SE 39th at Brooklyn was very, very helpful to me. It's still going at 7:30 pm.

If you can't go, you can't go, but if you've got a lot of family in recovery, talk to them about it. I'm sure they could give you some insight on what to do to take care of yourself and your family. Above all keep the focus on yourself.

Lynn Siprelle, Editor

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Communicate

Submitted by Jennmommy5 on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 9:30pm.

I think the one thing your missing most of all is to communicate your feelings to your husband! I mean really and truly your BIL is a man with a disease but that doesnt mean he has to infect your life with it all the time.Helping is a good thing and most of us want to help the ones we love but we must first help ourselves.What is it costing you to help him?Is the situation getting any better with your help?Bring these points to the attention of your DH.Tell HIM how much it stresses you and how you think it might effect your family unit.Lets face it your BIL is a grown man and if push come to shove well he can yip yip nin nin getta job!Your family however cannot reverse the stress he has bestowed on you so tell your DH ...its his brother and your his wife this is how you feel and this is what BIL does to make you feel that way then let DH run with it.If he doesnt bring satisfaction to the situation then wash rinse and repeat.

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I hear ya, sister

Submitted by Anhata on Mon, 03/01/2004 - 10:13pm.

One of my brothers is an alchoholic and a drug abuser (addictive behaviors run rampant on both sides of his family tree, he got a double whammy), and I'd let him sleep on my couch in a heartbeat IF he agreed to not use drugs or drink while staying under my roof.

You have your sanity and your kids to protect. Decide what you can live with and what you can't and then do it. You are a strong, courageous, feisty woman. You can handle this. I believe in you.
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