I appreciate the comments made today--I think I completely misunderstood the point to your posting of the story, as I thought you were trying to say it was Christianity's fault that this happened. Whereas, what I was trying to argue was that it was the fault of "groupthink" where the individual was not taken into account, and that it could happen anywhere. When my husband read the previous posts, he also took the same understanding as I, and pointed out that "groupthink" of atheists was what allowed WWII to continue and the many slaughters of the Jews. Today, we feel much more understood.

Anhata--as for clarifying what I meant by my last thought, I was (and am) trying to figure out a way (other than public worship) that would instill in this country's youth decent moral values. I realize that this is a job for families, one that parents should take on, but sadly the acceptance of what is crude and rude seems to be on the rise, and it's almost as if parents don't know it's their job to raise decent kids. I also realize that in general we all have different ideas of decent, but I truly have met parents who figured that "society" would teach their kids what they need to know, and in that case, those kids are not learning even a decent way to take care of themselves.

Anyhow, I'm off (and thank heaven for laptops!!), Thanks for the good wishes on the move, we'll be loading our truck in the morning, and then won't see our stuff again til the 21st, and that's if they are on time.