the quick disappearance of this thread, the diet plans, the plans to eat more fruit and veg, less junk, drink more water, exercise more, etc, etc... what do they all have in common?? They never last for more than a week or two. What we need to do is take small things that we know we can integrate into our current lifestyle, however appalled we are with that lifestyle. Radical change, unless it results from a life-altering event, doesn't last.

sorry, just an observation - I haven't come up with the cure just yet, but recognising and acknowledging one aspect of the problem is a start. Hypnotism might well work, but if you gave it up once before the chances are you'll give it up again. Rather than losing weight is there any way you could learn to live with what you've got, work with your body instead of against it, and just make tiny conscious changes. Being conscious every time you put something in your mouth might help - wouldn' stop me from putting it in anyway, but it might for some people. Being conscious when you grocery shop - is the bulk of your trolley filled with fresh items or junk or is it a reasonable balance. What could you change before you go to the checkout?

I could maybe follow this train of thought for hours but I've got a business meeting and I look like something the cat didn't bother to drag in!

Kerri.