or two LOL ..... your father having rights as a grandfather.... well I beleive that you have to put your rights, your children’s and your husband’s rights FIRST. Like Jamielea said

“I know it's hard, it just doesn't seem "normal" to cut off contact with your mom (or dad) but hey, now as a parent myself I know it's not "normal" to treat your children the way my Mom has treated me,”

My mother thought it wasn’t normal or proper to cut her mother off, and I suffered having to grow up around a toxic person who I watched hurt my mother and sometimes be hurful to me....

My husband’s mother’s mom was toxic, and so my husbands mom left to another state to raise her kids. His family, siblings, are all productive, happy, good citizens with very little animosities toward each other. My husband only saw his grandma 2 times. All he knew is that she wasn’t the nicest person, but they still prayed for her and thought loving thought for her. That‘s it, simple, not the sweetest but at least no bad hurtful memories, (like I have). I wonder what would have happened if his mother didn't cut ties????.... gad comparing his family to mine is like night and day. My family was/is dysfunctional in many ways.... his is very peaceful and productive.

And another thought I forgot to mention... about him wanting to have a tour of your house but was going through someone else .... big DUH that was a inappropriate way to go about it.... going through back doors just make my bells and whistles go off that there’s something not sooo honest going on.... I‘m sorry your family doesn‘t see this or support you...... I can totally relate.

Best Wishes

you too Jamielea, in regard to your mother

it isn’t easy cutting ties, if anyone wants to talk about it I’m here for ya’ll... helping you helps me right back

thanks for opening up and sharing Joanna

when handed a basket of lemons make lemonade

Charlene